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A Portfolio Question (Tax Minimization)
by R Wins » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:18 am
Hi, I am seeking to implement Dan Solin's supersmart portfolio by investing in the following funds amongst a taxable account with 146k and a tax sheltered account (Roth) with 65k. I would like to stay close to the allocations listed while also minimizing taxes:
Vanguard Large Cap Index Admiral Fund (VLCAX) 16%
Vanguard Value Index Admiral Fund (VVIAX) 16%
Vanguard Small Cap Value ETF (VBR) 16%
Vanguard REIT Index Admiral Fund (VGSLX) 8%
IShares MSCI EAFE Value ETF (EFV) 8%
IShares MSCI EAFE Small Cap ETF (SCZ) 8%
Vanguard Emerging Markets Stock Index Admiral Fund (VEMAX) 8%
IShares Barclays Short Treasury Bond ETF (SHV) 10%
SPDR Barclays Capital Short-Term International Treasury Bond ETF (BWZ) 10%
Any advice you could provide on how to split these funds between the taxable and tax sheltered account to minimize taxes would be helpful. Thanks!
Vanguard Large Cap Index Admiral Fund (VLCAX) 16%
Vanguard Value Index Admiral Fund (VVIAX) 16%
Vanguard Small Cap Value ETF (VBR) 16%
Vanguard REIT Index Admiral Fund (VGSLX) 8%
IShares MSCI EAFE Value ETF (EFV) 8%
IShares MSCI EAFE Small Cap ETF (SCZ) 8%
Vanguard Emerging Markets Stock Index Admiral Fund (VEMAX) 8%
IShares Barclays Short Treasury Bond ETF (SHV) 10%
SPDR Barclays Capital Short-Term International Treasury Bond ETF (BWZ) 10%
Any advice you could provide on how to split these funds between the taxable and tax sheltered account to minimize taxes would be helpful. Thanks!
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Re: A Portfolio Question (Tax Minimization)
by grabiner » Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:48 pm
Welcome to the forum!
Wiki article link: Principles of Tax-Efficient Fund Placement
This would be my estimated order of tax-efficiency, from most efficient (should be in taxable) to least efficent).
You might also consider VSS (Vanguard FTSE All-World Ex-US Small-Cap) instead of SCZ: it's less expensive, and it includes small-cap emerging markets, which Vanguard's emerging markets fund doesn't have.
Wiki article link: Principles of Tax-Efficient Fund Placement
This would be my estimated order of tax-efficiency, from most efficient (should be in taxable) to least efficent).
Temporarily tax-efficient (you'll need to switch these to tax-deferred if rates rise, but current yields are near zero):
IShares Barclays Short Treasury Bond ETF (SHV) 10%
SPDR Barclays Capital Short-Term International Treasury Bond ETF (BWZ) 10%
Tax-efficient:
IShares MSCI EAFE Small Cap ETF (SCZ) 8%
Vanguard Emerging Markets Stock Index Admiral Fund (VEMAX) 8%
Vanguard Large Cap Index Admiral Fund (VLCAX) 16%
Moderately tax-efficient:
Vanguard Small Cap Value ETF (VBR) 16%
IShares MSCI EAFE Value ETF (EFV) 8%
Vanguard Value Index Admiral Fund (VVIAX) 16%
Must be in IRA:
Vanguard REIT Index Admiral Fund (VGSLX) 8%
You might also consider VSS (Vanguard FTSE All-World Ex-US Small-Cap) instead of SCZ: it's less expensive, and it includes small-cap emerging markets, which Vanguard's emerging markets fund doesn't have.
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Re: A Portfolio Question (Tax Minimization)
by R Wins » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:17 am
Thank you! Your advice is invaluable and very helpful. Initially, I plan to invest 100% in stock funds and wait for interest rates to rise before investing in bonds since prices will likely fall. I will consider VSS instead of SCZ, especially since it has a lower expense ratio and covers small-cap emerging markets. I believe SCZ (small/blend) was recommended because it was more consistent with the Fama/French theory of small/value versus VSS which is small/growth.
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