Monday, October 28, 2013

XERO Explained / This presentation explains Xero’s business model, how they create value, and entrepreneurial ideation for Xero.

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Is Xero A Buy?

Edge7 @ Seeking Alpha writes: Xero Limited (ASX:XRO) is an accounting software provider for small business. Its product provides an online 'cloud based' accounting system for invoicing, accounts payable, bank reconciliation & bookkeeping.  Xero is certainly a fast growing company with an ambitious strategy. Does that make it a good value buy at current share price levels?
The chart is stellar
From a technical perspective, the price action doesn't get any better. And, congratulations to all share holders who have bought in prior to mid October, you are winners.

**Arrows represent potential long term price action, this of course is not guaranteed
The fundamental view is mixed
On the positive side:
  1. The company has a clear growth strategy which is global in scale
  2. The company is anticipating 80% revenue growth in FY14
  3. The company has what appears to be very savvy management
  4. The company has 'by all accounts' a great user-friendly product
  5. The company has reportedly spent seven years developing the product
On the negative side:
  1. The company reported a financial loss over $14 million in FY13
  2. The company has announced that it will incur a larger financial loss in FY14
  3. The company reports cash flow each quarter consistently less than 'Xero'
  4. On 1 August, the company announced it had "sufficient cash for current plans"
  5. However, on 14 October, the company raised NZ$180 million from the market
  6. The company has spent seven years developing an online based product that is easily copied
Would you pay $3 Billion?
The company has 125.2 million shares at a current share price of $24.50 a share.
This makes the company worth a touch over $3 Billion !!!
Without looking at the price chart and getting wrapped up in the emotion of the moment, would you rationally pay the equivalent of $3 Billion for a company that in FY14:
Will generate a loss of over $14 million
  • Has negative cash flow
  • Had to raise NZ$180 million of new capital to keep expanding
  • And, it is unknown if the company will turn a profit in FY15
Benjamin Graham's perfect example
Benjamin Graham said that in the short run the stock market behaves like a voting machine, however, in the long run, it acts like a weighing machine. Xero is currently winning the popularity contest that is the voting machine however, its true value will be reflected in the long run with the weighing machine of its profitability.
The risk
The company has spent a long time and a lot of money 'building a better mouse trap' in the online cloud accounting space. This is a space that is very difficult to create a long term sustainable competitive advantage.
How difficult would it be for existing competitors providing accounting software to add a 'cloud-based' product offering to their mix that may not be as good but just may be good enough?
Love vs Hate = Parabolic backwards
Being one of the most loved stocks on the ASX at the moment, the share price has gone parabolic in recent weeks. This does not mean it cannot go higher especially in the short term. In fact, it is my understanding that if the company reaches a market capitalisation of $10 Billion, all shareholders receive a tulip that has been cryogenically frozen since March 1637.
However, if love turns to hate as more shareholders realise they have paid a high and hopeful price for a loss making company, the parabolic share price could turn down as the positive energy for the share price dissipates. I hope that current shareholders will have found a chair if the music stops.
In closing
I think that the company will do well in the long run and wish current shareholders all the best. However, I also think that the current share price is many years ahead of the value of the business.
As the business does not currently generate a profit and will not for the foreseeable future, those buying shares in this business are speculating that someone will be willing to pay a higher price for their shares at the time when they wish to sell.
If a parabolic share price reversal move comes to pass over the next couple of years that coincides with the company turning a strong profit, I via the Edge Fund may be interested in one day being a shareholder of this growing business.
Posted on 4:28 AM | Categories:

In Accounting Selling Software, Intuit and Xero Diverge on Strategy

Sholto MacPhearson for BoxIT writes: Intuit would not use accountants and bookkeepers to sell its cloud accounting software but instead sell to businesses directly, senior executives have said. Intuit’s strategy ran counter to upcoming rival Xero, which at times has claimed that up to 60 percent of accounting software sales had been generated by accounting partners.
“We don’t see accountants as a sales channel. We see them as a partner and a customer,” said Brad Paterson, Intuit’s new Asia Pacific managing director.
“Every person in the ecosystem is as important to us. We will have equal support and energy to small businesses as accountants and bookkeepers, as well as developers building for the API,” Paterson said. (An API is a programming interface that lets a program send and receive data with other programs.)
QuickBooks Online, Intuit’s cloud program, was built around the small business, said Terry Hicks, senior vice president of small business financial solutions. “It’s less about double entry accounting than how do I know how my business is performing? Do I know when I can pay the bills?”
Intuit refused to reveal how many accountants in Australia and New Zealand had signed up to its ProAdvisor program. The company claimed 300,000 accountants had joined the program globally.
Intuit said it wasn’t fazed at the building momentum of Xero, which claimed 200 to 300 paying customers were signing up every business day.
“Intuit has been in a lot of competitively intense markets for its entire existence. There’s a company in Redmond, US (ed: Microsoft is based there) that has made multiple attempts to compete with Quicken in the US. At least two times we fought them out of the market with a better product and better relationships our customers,” Hicks said.
“When we launched QuickBooks we were the last entry to the market. Because we took a very customer-centric approach, in six months we became the market leader. We’re pretty confident that the right things will come to bear here,” Hicks said.
The biggest opportunity was not taking market share from rivals, however. “Excel is the biggest competitor in the market,” Paterson said. “They are the people who we know we can help the most.”
Intuit had calculated that across markets in developed countries, half of small businesses were using either Excel or paper and pencil to manage their accounts, Hicks said. In developing markets the figure jumped to 70 percent.
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New Tools for Nest Eggs / Services to ease navigation of variable annuities, taxes and IRA rollovers

Robert Powell for the Wall St Journal writes: The right tools can make investing for retirement easier, by helping you manage the details of particular investments or by managing your entire portfolio. Here's a look at some services that do just that.
Annuity Review ( annuityreview.com )
Millions of new and would-be retirees find themselves holding—and trying to decipher—variable annuities. Annuity Review analyzes variable-annuity contracts (and any supplemental riders) and explains, in plain English, how your annuity works and how to get the most out of it.
The service does well at helping buyers understand the basics of their annuity contracts, such as investment restrictions and the impact of excess withdrawals. It was developed by Mark Cortazzo, a senior partner at Macro Consulting Group, a financial-advisory firm in Parsippany, N.J.
"They have been able to point out things about my clients' annuity contracts that I…would not have been able to figure out, even after scouring the prospectus for 10 hours," says Dana Anspach, the founder of Sensible Money LLC, a registered investment adviser in Scottsdale, Ariz.
Cost: $199 for an analysis of as many as three contracts. Each additional contract is $49.
Wealthfront (wealthfront.com)
Wealthfront Inc.'s software-driven investment management "basically replicates what the larger registered investment advisers do with their rebalancing/trading software," saysMichael Kitces, publisher of the Kitces Report and director of research at Pinnacle Advisory Group, a wealth-management firm in Columbia, Md.
Wealthfront, whose chief investment officer is Burton Malkiel, author of "A Random Walk Down Wall Street," will craft a diversified, low-cost portfolio for you and rebalance your investments automatically as necessary. If your account is $100,000 or more, the service also will help you harvest tax losses—that is, use your investment losses to offset taxes due on investment gains and income.
Wealthfront, in Palo Alto, Calif., uses only exchange-traded funds when managing your money, not individual securities or mutual funds.
Cost: None for the first $10,000 of assets under management. On amounts over $10,000, a monthly advisory fee is charged, based on an annual rate of 0.25% of your assets. There are also fees embedded in the ETFs the service buys for your portfolio.
Betterment (betterment.com)
Betterment LLC, like Wealthfront, offers low-cost portfolio-management services. And it can help transfer your retirement savings from a 401(k) or other accounts into an individual retirement account in as little as 60 seconds.
The New York-based registered investment adviser has a team of representatives who can help answer questions about IRA rollovers. And if need be, a rep will "join a call with [your] existing provider" to smooth the process, says Joe Ziemer, Betterment's communications manager.
There are no fees or minimum balances for the IRA rollover service, but the account that's created will be subject to Betterment's regular fees. Like Wealthfront, Betterment uses only exchange-traded funds when building your portfolio.
Cost: A management fee of 0.15% to 0.35% annually, depending on your balance, plus the ETFs' fees.
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Do You Have an Accountant in Your Pocket? New Intuit Report Says Small Business Owners Will Seek Accounting Professionals Who Offer High-Touch Through High-Tech

The future of the accounting profession is undergoing a dramatic shift as current and potential clients expect real-time support, access to their financial information anytime, anywhere, and expert advice from their accountant in an increasingly complex, global business world. These are some of the highlights in the new Intuit 2013 Future of Accountancy Report released today.
The report focuses on the demographic, social, economic and technology shifts that will shape the accounting profession over the next decade. The report was prepared by Emergent Research in partnership with Intuit Inc. (Nasdaq: INTU) and 37 top influencers in accountancy from around the world. The Future of Accountancy Report provides an update to the Intuit 2020: Future of the Accounting Profession report released in 2011.
“Business owners are more demanding in their approach to the accounting professional,” said Margaret Carey, CPA, Masters of Commerce and blogger at Business EEz in Australia. “They want an accountant who will be their partner and help drive their businesses forward. The successful accounting firm is adopting new technologies that connect their accounting system with their clients’ small business systems to provide a complete, integrated ecosystem. This expands the accountant’s role into one of advisor working within a truly collaborative platform. It’s an exciting time to be an accountant!”
The Next Decade in Accounting
The services accounting professionals provide are impacted by significant shifts in the global business environment, online and mobile technologies, social networks and the rise of Gen Y and Millennials. According to the Intuit 2013 Future of Accountancy Report, these trends will impact the accounting industry in the following ways:
  • Global Business Environment
    Accounting professionals will see new and increased competition as banks, other financial services companies, software, Internet firms, and government agencies offer an array of accounting and tax-related products and services. As a result, the demand for accounting professionals to master new skills, knowledge and standards will intensify.
  • Online, Mobile, Social Technologies
    Smartphones, tablets, notebooks and other mobile computing devices will become the main tools for accounting professionals to practice greater flexibility in their careers and life. Cloud services will allow them to provide real-time customer support; and accounting firms can use tools to provide an “appified” experience and provide clients with an “accountant in their pocket.” At the same time, firms and professionals who use online content to help build their brand by demonstrating experience, domain knowledge and thought leadership will be at a competitive advantage.
  • Demographic Shifts
    Quick to adopt new technology, Gen Y, or Millennials, will look for careers that provide work/life balance and flexibility. As they start their own businesses, they may be more inclined than their baby boomer counterparts to outsource certain factors of financial management, including payroll, health care/benefits programs and compliance.
“Small businesses are facing a massive shift in technology, and they must adopt these technologies into their business processes to compete effectively over the next decade,” said Joe Woodard, founder of Woodard Consulting Group and host of Scaling New Heights, a premier accounting conference. “To best serve their clients, accounting professionals need to embrace new technologies quickly, understand the best way to incorporate those technologies into the small business process and proactively guide their clients through to full adoption. As an industry, we must take the lead and be out in front of the coming changes.”
“With increased competition, technology advances, globalization and demographic shifts, trust will remain paramount in the relationship between accounting professionals and the clients they serve,” said Jill Ward, senior vice president and general manager of Intuit’s Accountant and Advisor Group. “The trends happening within the industry provide several opportunities for accountants to deliver the service their clients expect and demand. Intuit will continue to partner with accounting professionals, helping them save time, grow their practice and thrive in this rapidly changing environment.”
About Emergent Research
Emergent Research is a research and consulting firm focused on identifying, analyzing and forecasting the key demographic, social, technology and economic trends and shifts impacting business and society. Emergent Research partners, Steve King and Carolyn Ockels, are co-authors of the Intuit 2020 Report and the Intuit Future of Small Business Report Series.
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Intuit QuickBooks Powers Ahead in India

Intuit today announced that QuickBooks, the company’s flagship business and financial management software, has been tried by more than 50,000 small business owners in India, providing them with easy access to their finances through an internet-connected computer or data plan-enabled smartphone. 

In a survey conducted by Intuit with the subscribers of QuickBooks in India, nearly 90% of the respondents agreed that QuickBooks provides anytime, anywhere accessibility as it’s a cloud based offering. About 81% of them agreed QuickBooks provides them with the benefit of automatic software upgrade feature and 74% of the respondents agreed that its easy for their employees to access through the multiple-user login feature. 76% of the respondents agreed that they have benefited from the automatic data backup feature.


Over 50% of subscribers of QuickBooks in India are located primarily in 4 cities – Bangalore, New Delhi, Mumbai and Chennai. The majority of the offering’s userbase comes from the services industry (62%), which largely comprises of Tech Startups, HR Consultants, Marketing Consultants and Travel Agents. 

Underscoring QuickBooks appeal amongst the Accountant community in India, adoption in this user base has been growing at 49% over the last six months. Accountants are also playing a key role in recommending their own clients to migrate to QuickBooks. 

Nikhil Arora, Vice President and Managing Director of Intuit India, said: “We are very encouraged by the traction QuickBooks has experienced in just under a year since we launched it in India. Intuit is very pleased to have had the opportunity to carry forward our longstanding legacy of working with customers to understand their needs and build solutions based on their feedback. Using this feedback, we are continuously iterating on the product to deliver on the localization needs in India. We have also run several initiatives and worked collaboratively with the government and other industry bodies to create awareness among small business owners about technology adoption. We look forward to continuing to work with and empower small businesses in their journey to success.” 

QuickBooks lets small businesses easily create localised invoices, pay bills and track expenses. The easy-to-use, cloud-based service needs no professional accounting training and allows the small business owners to take data-driven business decisions on the move. 

Suraj Nayak, Founder of EcoSpace and a QuickBooks user said: “QuickBooks takes care of all my accounting needs and most importantly has helped me immensely in making the right business decisions. Its comprehensive features and anytime-anywhere access helps me streamline my work. QuickBooks has taught me the essentials of managing business intelligently.” 

For accountants, QuickBooks helps them collaborate with their teams better and efficiently deliver to their customers across regions. Some of the key product features that have been influencing accountants across major cities in India are online banking integration capabilities, customizable reporting and seamless collaboration. Intuit also launched a ProAdvisor Programme for accountants in India wherein they receive international certification and advanced training to provide priority support to their clients. 

Intuit QuickBooks ProAdvisor, CA, Mukesh said: “Besides offering great features such as anytime-anywhere access, QuickBooks has allowed me to take better business decisions. It has also helped me grow my business by enhancing my ability to provide timely and informed advice to my clients.” 
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Why You Should Not Use Wave Accounting Software (and Comments) / Updated: I’ve Change My Mind About Using Wave Accounting Software

UPDATE January 2014 Wave Now Has a Bank Reconciliation Feature! I received communication from Scott Zandbergen, VP of the ProNetwork at Wave, and he’s informed me that wave now has a bank reconciliation feature. This is the busy season for bookkeepers, so I won’t be able to check out the feature until a month or so. But congratulations Wave!

Stephanie Travis for GainesvilleTech writes:   Just recently, a New York City (bragging) startup found me online and hired me to help with bookkeeping. The startup uses Wave Accounting, and I was open to working in this software. I was hoping to be able to officially recommend an alternative to QuickBooks.
But in our first session of working together, I found a major shortcoming of Wave Accounting: it does not have a bank reconciliation function. Wave Accounting provides an import function where it links to your bank and credit card accounts and then imports the transactions into your Wave company books. (QuickBooks offers this same function.) The founder was savvy enough to notice that the checking and credit card account balances on the Balance Sheet did not match what Wave said was currently in the bank account per its import module. How could this be?
If the bank and credit card accounts had been reconciled, then this issue would not exist. A basic bookkeeping function is to reconcile these accounts each month. A solid accounting software program will provide a reconciliation function. If you are not reconciling your bank and credit card accounts each month, your books are worthless. Reconciliation helps you find errors such as missing transactions, transactions entered twice or transactions entered with typos or wrong amounts. I hear you asking, “If Wave imports the transactions electronically, then how can any of these errors happen?” They can, and they did.
In order to find his error, the founder had to view his bank and credit card statements and compare every transaction on the statements to the transactions in Wave to find the errors.
Are you using an accounting software program other than QuickBooks? Shoot me a note at stephanie@onesourceaccounting.com, and I’ll review it .   Comments To Date  BELOW, Visit the site to comment!




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    Ian Vacin 

    Stephanie, my name is Ian Vacin and I am the VP of Marketing & Product at Xero. We are the alternative to QuickBooks and QuickBooks Online. Xero is beautiful, easy to use (including bank rec) online accounting software for small businesses and their advisors with 150K+ paying customers in more than 100 countries around the world. Feel free to email me at ian.vacin@xero.com or check out http://www.xero.com




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        petenixey  Ian Vacin 

        Xero is very good software but massively mispriced. $144/year for only 5 invoices/month and 20 reconciliation lines per month.
        The Xero pricing is aggressive and difficult to leave or to hibernate. The entry level pricing is almost useless as with 5 bills per month and 20 reconciliations it almost immediately becomes outgrown. Expect to be paying $240/year to have any real functionality. If your business slows down or you decide to keep it in the background then know that you'll have to keep paying that for as long as you want access to your accounts or manually export a lot of different data out. There is no tick-over pricing and no one-click data export.
        If you've got a business for which this is insignificant pricing for then it does its job very well. If however you've got something small on the side then be aware that you will almost immediately need the larger version of the software. Xero is not for hobbyists and if you find yourself locked in and north of $1,000 down the line while still unable to enter more than 5 invoices then you'll find it to be intensely irritating.




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            Mike Block  petenixey 

            The Xero Ledger has unlimited bank and credit card imports @ $12 a month (through Partners, no invoices or payments). Use it with FreshBooks for little or nothing. There has been no Xero package for more than $39 a month (less 20% through us), so I do not understand the $1,000 reference). There is no lock in, as several companies convert anything to or from Xero (QuickBooks to Xero is now free). After years as a top QuickBooks insider, I found Xero massively better. The gap got much bigger recently, partly due to our Xero automation program. Venture capital stars gave Xero $150 million, for U.S. expansion 10 days ago. Xero stock then rose 65%, up 3600% in 5 years, so the stock market already knows the winner of the Intuit Xero war.




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                Stephanie G Travis  petenixey 

                Ian .. Thanks for that review of Xero!




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                  Stephanie G Travis  Ian Vacin 

                  Ian .. Thanks for your comment. I have seen Xero briefly when I reviewed a company's books on your software. I have also seen other accountants recommend Xero as a solid accounting program.




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                    James Lochrie 

                    Stephanie,
                    I'm the co-founder and Chef Product Officer of Wave. I agree that Reconciliation is a very important part of the accounting process and currently in Wave you are only able to do that by comparing transactions on your statements to the data in Wave.
                    There are ways to achieve reconciliation but none that are built right into the product today. However, we are in the early stages of putting together a very unique reconciliation tool that accomplishes the task and at the same time stays true to our ease of use mentality.
                    If you wish to have a voice in this please let me know and I can connect you with the right person. Please send a note to james at waveapps.com
                    James Lochrie




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                        Stephanie G Travis  James Lochrie 

                        James ...
                        Thanks for visiting and commenting. I'm glad Wave is working to add the reconciliation function it its software.
                        As an expert in the fields of bookkeeping and accounting, I bristle when anyone wants to simplify the accounting and bookkeeping process to the point where the message is, "You don't need an expert. Use our software, and you can keep good books without any specialized knowledge in the area of bookkeeping or accounting." All of the accounting software companies do this, including Intuit and Xero.
                        Software programs are not surrogate bookkeepers. They are tools for qualified bookkeepers. The sales technique of leading business owners to believe they can correctly use accounting software with no bookkeeping knowledge increases sales, but it sabotages the customer you are selling to. I have rarely seen a business owner keep good books on his/her own.
                        Accounting software companies are putting "ease of use" above "accuracy of data." Why? Because it drives sales.
                        The way accounting software makers can better serve the customer is to incorporate as many checks and balances as it can in the software so an untrained user can have a fighting chance at accurate data. A bank reconciliation is one of these checks and balances.
                        I love that Wave and Xero are are in the accounting software game. I believe we will all benefit from your expertise and insights.




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                            James Lochrie  Stephanie G Travis 

                            Stephanie,
                            Thanks so much for the feedback. I couldn't agree more with your perspective. At Wave, we build accounting software that's targeted at small business owners, and while we aim to make it as easy as possible, you'll never see marketing messaging from us that says we will replace your accountant. Case in point, we have an entire "Pro Network" community of accountants and bookkeepers that work closely with Wave on serving the needs of our customers. As you know, accountants will always have a role to play with small businesses - whether it's assisting with year-ends, filing taxes or just providing ongoing guidance.
                            We hope to replace the shoebox not the accounting professionals that help make businesses successful
                            I'd encourage you to check out our Pro Network:https://www.waveapps.com/pro-n...
                            Thanks,
                            James




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                                Ben Ward  James Lochrie 

                                >We hope to replace the shoebox not the accounting professionals that help make businesses successful.
                                Great point James. We've found the same issue come up.




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                                    Guest  James Lochrie 

                                    James ... Thanks for the info. I admit, I've had my head buried over the last few years growing my business and working on establishing resource websites for startups and entrepreneurs. I did not know Wave had a Pro Network. I'll check that out and consider spending some dedicated time to learning more about other accounting software programs.




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                                        Stephanie G Travis  James Lochrie 

                                        James ... Thanks for the info. I admit, I've had my head buried over the last few years growing my business and working on establishing resource websites for startups and entrepreneurs. I did not know Wave had a Pro Network. I'll check that out and consider spending some dedicated time to learning more about other accounting software programs.




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                                            Brooke Aguanno  Stephanie G Travis 

                                            Hi Stephanie,
                                            My name is Brooke, I'm the Program Coordinator for Wave’s Pro Network. Thanks for starting this discussion. I hope you’ll join us in more conversations on our LinkedIn Group to learn how other professionals are successfully using Wave with their small business clients.
                                            Feel free to reach out to me via email for some more information about the network and how it can benefit your practice: brooke@waveapps.com
                                            Although we’re still in the early stages of development, I’ve noticed a significant increase in collaboration between Wave and the accounting professionals that we’re partnering with. This has helped our team to iterate and quickly push out more small business solutions (ex. Bank Rec.) that will really increase your capacity to bring on more clients.
                                            We would love to leverage your feedback to help us provide the tools you need.
                                            I look forward to getting in touch,
                                            Brooke




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                                                Stephanie G Travis  Brooke Aguanno 

                                                Brooke ... Thanks for the info. I've joined the LinkedIn group.




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                                                    Susan Alai  Stephanie G Travis 

                                                    Tried using wave's pro network and after several calls to the CPAs who said they did not know why they were on there, since they only recommend quickbooks, I found the network not useful. The entrepreneurs I work with do not have time to go search until finally one accountant finally agrees to take on wave.
                                                    Looking at cheqbook at the moment. Looks promising but still concerned with accountants who can actually use the software since most won't take time to learn a new software when 'the old one is working just fine' for them.




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                                              Rolando Brown  James Lochrie 

                                              Hi James,
                                              I'm a new Wave user. Any updates on this very unique reconciliation tool? In beta, in the kanban? :-)




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                                                  Stephanie G Travis  Rolando Brown 

                                                  Rolando,
                                                  As far as I see, Wave Accounting has not yet implemented a bank reconciliation.
                                                  As much as I hate to include the following in my comment here because I believe Wave Accounting only wants to build the best product for its customers, I would not be a responsible bookkeeping resource for startups if I did not. Recently, the investor/partner of the startup I work with that uses Wave Accounting (they chose this software before hiring me), emailed me that we needed to move the books to another accounting software product. He said he talked to four CPAs, and they would not work with Wave Accounting. The investor/partner said they cannot raise another round of funding if the books are still in Wave. We are now working on recreating the 2012 and 2013 books in QuickBooks.
                                                  Back to the bank reconciliation function, here is the latest I can find on Wave's website about this:




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                                                Mark Roberts 

                                                Yes, but wave is new and best of all it's FREE as apposed to spending upto £30 a month on most cloud based services. There maybe one or two flaws in there service, but they are being addressed all the time. So for something that is free it is worth being patient. I know most small businesses operate on a small budget so anything that is free is a big help! If any of these monthly subscription based companies want to attract new businesses and keep them then they should offer a 6 month free to use service. This would allow most small just starting out companies enough time to establish a viable income to warrant a cloud based bookkeeping service.




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                                                    Ben Ward 

                                                    Stephanie, I'm Ben Ward CTO at Cheqbook.com. We built our software out of a CPA firm when we ran into problems like this. We built a robust bank reconciliation feature. We found that we needed one because in some cases the bank data can be inconsistent. While there is no silver bullet to erase the accounting process, we have streamlined it immensely.
                                                    Anyone can try us out free for 90 days using this promo link. http://bit.ly/111Wp5n
                                                    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.




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                                                      Brandon T. Luong 

                                                      Thanks for this tip! I was just thinking of using them for my startup down the road, but after reading this I think I might go to Xero instead. Thanks again for the save!




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                                                          Adam Crawford 

                                                          Hi Stephanie,
                                                          I was looking at using Wave accounting for our business. We are an music artist agency, so we book out bands to promoters. There's often a few stages to each transaction with deposits, fees, travel and accommodation payments going in either direction. We would like to manage this, plus pay our artists, draw reports of income and so on.
                                                          What do you recommend?
                                                          Thanks




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                                                              Stephanie G Travis  Adam Crawford 

                                                              Adam,
                                                              I recommend QuickBooks accounting software. I do believe there are other solid bookkeeping programs out there, but I can't recommend them because I don't have personal experience with them.
                                                              If you like the cloud, QuickBooks has a cloud product called QuickBooks Online. Here is their pricing page: http://quickbooksonline.intuit...
                                                              If you are set on using something other than QB, then continue your research and find a reputable bookkeeper or CPA who has demonstrated expertise on the Internet to recommend an alternative product.




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                                                                  Mike Block  Stephanie G Travis 

                                                                  Hi Stephanie: Xero grew users around 3x as fast as QuickBooks Online. The QuickBooks desktop lost 17% of users and 70% of add-on links recently. QB Online only got about 75% of the lost users, while Xero again doubled add-ons. Top QB Advisors begged for a better QB Online and a workflow program in 2005, detailing changes needed. We got nothing much for years. Intuit's CEO then apologized for not following our advice. I would still rather go to the dentist than use QB Online.




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                                                                      Stephanie G Travis  Mike Block 

                                                                      Mike .. Thanks for the info. I am not a fan of QB online, that's for certain. I am interested to hear about users' experiences with Less Accounting as well.
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