Friday, December 27, 2013

TurboTax Deluxe Fed, Efile and State 2013 with Refund Bonus Offer via Amazon / Use some (or all) of your federal refund to purchase an Amazon.com Gift Card** from TurboTax and TurboTax will tack on an extra 10%



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Amazon 10% Fed refund bonus with TurboTax

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Amazon 10% Fed refund bonus with TurboTaxby Watty » Fri Dec 

27, 2013 12:20 pm

If you are expecting a large Federal refund this year then you might be interested in a promotion that is going on at Amazon. If you buy Turbo Tax there during the promotion and get your Federal refund as an Amazon Gift card then you can get a 10% bonus on that gift card. It looks like you can get up to a $1,000 bonus if you have a $10,000 federal refund for some reason.


As usual, please read all the fine print yourself.
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Re: Amazon 10% Fed refund bonus with TurboTaxby nordlead » 

Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:32 pm

Interesting, as I could get myself $300 for free, but I don't know what I would do with $3.3k in gift cards.
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Re: Amazon 10% Fed refund bonus with TurboTaxby sscritic » Fri 

Dec 27, 2013 12:37 pm

What is an e-card? You need five of them to get the full $10,000 on your $100,000 refund.
Amazon.com Gift Card offer is for federal refunds only. Limits apply ($2000 per e-card, maximum $10,000 per customer). Offer available only for TurboTax Online or CD/download versions sold and shipped, or downloaded directly from Intuit or Amazon.
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Re: Amazon 10% Fed refund bonus with TurboTaxby P&C 

actuary » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:42 pm

*Amazon.com Gift Card offer is for federal refunds only. Limits apply ($2000 per e-card, maximum $10,000 per customer). Offer available only for TurboTax Online or CD/download versions sold and shipped, or downloaded directly from Intuit or Amazon. See here for full details.



Limit is $2000 per e-card.

It says "directly from Intuit or Amazon". I wonder if the download through Vanguard would count.
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Re: Amazon 10% Fed refund bonus with TurboTaxby bsteiner » 

Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:43 pm

Can I pay in my expected tax liability plus $10,000 on January 15th as an estimated tax payment, and then get my $10,000 refund in the form of an Amazon gift card?

How much could I sell my $11,000 Amazon gift card for on eBay?

This sounds a bit like buying a large quantity of forever stamps at 46 cents and trying to sell them when the rate goes up to 49 cents.
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Re: Amazon 10% Fed refund bonus with TurboTaxby sscritic » Fri 

Dec 27, 2013 12:53 pm

bsteiner wrote:Can I pay in my expected tax liability plus $10,000 on January 15th as an estimated tax payment, and then get my $10,000 refund in the form of an Amazon gift card?

How much could I sell my $11,000 Amazon gift card for on eBay?

This sounds a bit like buying a large quantity of forever stamps at 46 cents and trying to sell them when the rate goes up to 49 cents.

You should actually overpay by $15,000 so you can get your paper I bond with $5,000 and your Amazon gift card with the remaining $10,000. I wonder if TT and Amazon allow you to split your refund that way.
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Re: Amazon 10% Fed refund bonus with TurboTaxby Bungo » Fri 

Dec 27, 2013 12:58 pm

I'm expecting a large refund this year, so it's a good deal in theory, but I don't want to spend it at Amazon.

However, thanks for providing the link, as I wasn't aware that TurboTax is significantly cheaper through Amazon vs. the Intuit web site, where I usually get it. For example, the Premier version is $69.99 vs. $89.99 at Intuit:

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Re: Amazon 10% Fed refund bonus with TurboTaxby denovo » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:16 pm


Damn this looks good, but I don't spend that much money on Amazon!

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Google Should Buy Intuit, Crush PayPal

Heard anything good lately?....here at  ExactCPA we read everything including Monte Hayward who has an interesting opinion and writes: Google Should Buy Intuit, Crush PayPal


I wrote that Google is Going After PayPal with Google Wallet. What would be Google's natural next step? Google is a few components away from owning the money round trip: POS  devices, mobile payment devices, bill presentment, and personal finance. Google could acquire Inuit, get all of those, sell you a mortgage, and prepare your taxes.

Intuit has its own cash-register size POS system and mobile payments device GoPayment. It has announced integration with Square via Square-Quickbooks integration. It has freebie Mint.com, and three paid tiers of the mobile-plus-desktop Quicken 2014.

Money Required

Intuit would cost less than Ebay, and more than recent Google acquisition Motorola. Square is arguably already on-track for an acquisition, given its recent integration to blood rival Intuit.
  • $373B - Google Market Cap
  • $70B - Ebay Market Cap (including PayPal) 
  • $21.8B - Intuit Market Cap
  • $12.4B - Google acquired Motorola for $40/share
  • $341M - Square Total Funding
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TipperCoin Mixes Digital Currency with Twitter, but Obstacles Loom / Send Bitcoins over Twitter

BAILEY REUTZEL for Payments Source writes:  TipperCoin is attempting to combine two concepts that have faced strong headwinds in the past year: digital currency and Twitter-based payments.


Bitcoin and other virtual currencies are under heavy scrutiny from regulators worldwide, and Twitter has a history of blocking any payment system that it views as running afoul of its terms of service. But two Aussies who currently reside in San Francisco have developed a Bitcoin payment mechanism called TipperCoin that may be able to navigate these rough waters.
The payment method allows users to send bitcoins by posting a Twitter message containing the hashtag #TipperCoin (a hashtag is a word or phrase preceded by the # sign, which makes it easily searched on Twitter). Users cannot send bitcoins through retweets and are encouraged not to store too many bitcoins in the account, which is meant for tipping.

"Twitter is a good public platform to display that you've tipped/donated to someone," says Scott Li, co-founder and front-end developer of TipperCoin. "When bloggers/publishers start accepting bitcoin donations, there will be a day when they would think, 'I no longer need to spam readers with Google ads anymore.' This could be the end of advertising."
The concept was inspired by BitcoinTip, a system that allows users of the discussion site Reddit to tip other users of the site.

Li and cofounder Sidney Zhang chose Bitcoin because it has lower transaction fees than card purchases, making it a better fit for micropayments such as tips.

BitWall is another Bitcoin-based business trying to facilitate micropayments for content monetization. The San Francisco-based company recently launched a social "paywall" with The Dish Daily, an online technology and entrepreneurship publication. BitWall allows readers to view articles after they have tweeted a link to their followers. It also supports more conventional paywalls.

Li and Zhang launched TipperCoin this week. Their Twitter account has 385 followers and has posted 498 tweets so far. The account posts a tweet every time a user initiates a payment. It also tweets an automated reply when users send it a message.
TipperCoin does not charge transaction fees; the developers consider it a side project rather than a dedicated business.

"From what we've seen…there is value in being able to send bitcoins via Twitter," Li says. "If this grows to a significant size, we will contact Twitter in working with them more closely and being compliant with their rules."

The pair has not contacted Twitter apart from using its application programming interface (API), and Twitter has not yet contacted them.

"Social payments haven't taken off in a significant way yet … there's a lot of work to be done in terms of getting people thinking about payments in this way," says Gil Luria, an analyst at Wedbush Securities in Los Angeles, Calif.

But tech-savvy Bitcoin users are probably the best group of consumers to launch social payments to, Luria says. "The innovators that handle bitcoin are much more likely to be open and understanding to the opportunity in social payments," he says. 

However, based on Twitter's history of enforcement, TipperCoin may suffer a temporary or permanent shutdown when the microblogging site takes notice.

Twitter has been particular about which companies facilitate payments on its service. Twitter has taken action against companies such as Flattr and Ribbon for running payments services that violated the company's terms.

"Any payment company working with any large company needs to know how to comply with the regulations," Luria says. "There's so much controversy with large companies dealing with money transmitters and bitcoin businesses are part of that."

Companies that currently facilitate payments via Twitter include ChirpifyAmerican Express and Dwolla.

Twitter also hired its first head of commerce, Nathan Hubbard, formerly of Ticketmaster, in August. The move may signal the company's plans to take a more active role in payments.
Another issue for TipperCoin could be that it is facilitating money transfers without registering with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network or obtaining the appropriate state licenses.
American Express and Dwolla are both registered as money services businesses with Fincen in all 50 states. "Chirpify uses acquiring bank partners who are fully compliant with money transmission licenses in each state," says Chris Teso, founder and CEO of Chirpify. 
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17 Tips for End of Year Tax Planning

Madison for MyDollarPlan writes:  It’s time for end of year tax planning! Time to get your financial house in order for tax season! What could be more fun that taking a break from holiday festivities and shopping to start thinking about taxes?

It seems like every year when we do our taxes, there’s a few things we wish we would have done in December to reduce our tax bill just a little more. Sound familiar?
That’s where a little end of year tax planning results in great rewards!
Here’s an updated list of money moves to make before the new year.

Year End Tax Moves

  1. Run a preview. Before the end of the year run an estimate using the tax calculator or Turbo Tax. If you wait until the new year, it’s often too late to go back and make changes. Start running projections now before the year end!
  2. Bump up contributions to retirement plans. Contribute more to your 401k by the end of the year to reduce your taxable income and your tax bill.
  3. Plan for health insurance changes. The new penalty for no health insurance in 2014 begins in January. To avoid the new penalty, you can sign up for Obamacare. In addition, the Health Insurance Premium Tax Credit, which is advanceable will also be available in January.
  4. Take your losses. Did you lose money on your investments? If so, you might as well sell them and take the capital loss. Commonly referred to as tax loss harvesting, losses (that exceed gains) are capped at $3,000, but you can carry them forward into future tax years.
  5. Take your gains. Once again, you can pay 0% long term capital gains if you are in the 10% or 15% tax bracket. If you are planning to sell, you might as well do it before year end if you fall in this tax bracket!
  6. Review new investment tax rules. The new 3.8% 2013 Investment Tax on investment income, including capital gains and dividends, will kick in for high income filers. If you are subject to the new tax pay close attention to your end of year strategy to realize gains and losses.
  7. Prepay your mortgage and real estate taxes. Even if your payments aren’t due until January, you can pay them in December to deduct this year, if you itemize. Should you pay this year or wait? For more information, see how to determine if you should accelerate your property tax deduction into the current year.
  8. Give away your money. If you were planning to give a lot of money to someone special, utilize your annual gift exclusion of $14,000. More than that and you are subject to the gift tax.
  9. Use your flex spending money. The use-it-or-lose it rule makes your money disappear if you don’t use it. Check your plan for the deadline to incur costs and submit reimbursement requests. If you don’t know what to spend your money on, see the list of ways to use all of your flex spending account. It’s also a good time to remember to enroll in your 2014 flexible spending account if you haven’t done so already. The $2,500 flex spending plan limit will remain the same for 2014.
  10. Donate. We all know we can donate clothes, books, and household stuff to Goodwill. But dig deeper and you might be able to find more ways to make a charitable donation. For example, I like to remind newlyweds that you can donate wedding dresses and attire to take a tax deduction. Be sure to research the charity to make sure you know how your donations will be used.
  11. Finalize your records. If you plan to deduct mileage on your personal car make sure your mileage logs are complete. Remember you will save yourself time by being organized! Review how long you need to keep your paperwork before throwing out any records.
  12. Review your checklist. I keep an end of year tax planning and finance checklist. The checklist comes in handy to determine what needs to be done each year to keep our finances in order. If you don’t have an annual list, now is a great time to make one. Just write everything down as you go.
  13. Make 529 plan contributions. If your state has a deduction for 529 plan contributions, make your contribution before year end.
  14. Do an AMT analysis. If there’s a chance that you will be subject to AMT, analyze your deductions to see if you are better off waiting to make some of the above moves.
  15. Close your IRA. While this one is very extreme, I keep it in the list to remind you to review the performance of your IRA. If you carefully evaluated the pros and cons, and decided to take a loss on an IRA, you must close your account before year end to claim your loss on your taxes this year.
  16. Fund your IRA. You have until the tax deadline to maximize your Roth IRA contributions. However, if you’re getting an end of year bonus, it might be a good time to stash it away!
  17. Convert your IRAs. After running our tax estimates, I determine if it makes sense to make a Roth IRA Conversion. If you need to make one, don’t forget it needs to be done by the end of the year. In addition, if you are planning to use the Backdoor Roth IRA strategy this year, you also need to determine if you want to make your conversion by the end of the year.

Determine if You Need to Pay Tax or File

Finally, after you’ve reviewed all the end of year planning, review the requirements for filing and paying taxes. Finding out in April that you need to pay tax on unemployment, you made over the minimum income to file taxesyour kids need to file taxes or that your social security benefits are taxable aren’t usually welcome surprises. Do yourself a favor and review the requirements before the end of the year.
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Moguls Rent South Dakota Addresses to Dodge Taxes Forever / Little more than renting an address in Sioux Falls is required to take advantage of South Dakota’s tax-friendly trust laws.

 Zachary R. Mider for Bloomberg writes: Among the nation’s billionaires, one of the most sought-after pieces of real estate right now is a quiet storefront in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
A branch of Chicago’s Pritzker family rents space here, down the hall from the Minnesota clan that controls the Radisson hotel chain, and other rooms held by Miami and Hong Kong money.
Don’t look for any heiresses in this former five-and-dime. Most days, the small offices that represent these families are shut. Even empty, they provide their owners with an important asset: a South Dakota address for their trust funds.
In the past four years, the amount of money administered by South Dakota trust companies like these has tripled to $121 billion, almost all of it from out of state. The families needn’t actually move to South Dakota, or deposit their money at a local bank, or even touch down in the private jet. Little more than renting an address in Sioux Falls is required to take advantage of South Dakota’s tax-friendly trust laws.
States like South Dakota are “creating laws that are conducive to a massive exploitation of a federal tax loophole,” said Edward McCaffery, a professor at the University of Southern California’s Gould School of Law. “We have a tax haven in our midst.”
South Dakota’s sudden popularity illustrates how, at a time of rising U.S. economic inequality, the wealthiest Americans are embracing ever more creative ways to reduce taxes legally. Executives at South Dakota Trust Co., one of the biggest in the state, estimate that one-quarter of their business comes from special vehicles known as “dynasty trusts,” which are designed to avoid the federal estate tax. Creation of such trusts has surged in recent years as changes in federal law enabled more money to be placed in them.

Dynastic Wealth

While the super-rich use various tools to escape the levy - - some have exotic names like the “Jackie O” trust and the “Walton GRAT” -- the advantage of dynasty trusts is that they shield a family’s wealth forever. That defies the spirit of the estate tax, enacted almost 100 years ago to discourage the perpetuation of dynastic wealth.
    The dynasty trust isn’t South Dakota’s only lure. Another attraction, for customers in places like New York and Massachusetts, is the chance to shelter their investments from income taxes in their home states. In November, a government commission in New York recommended tightening trust laws to avoid income-tax leakage to states like South Dakota, estimating the change would raise an extra $150 million a year.

    Prairie Bermuda

    Still others are drawn to South Dakota’s iron-clad secrecy, and protections of trust assets from creditors and ex-wives. Many of these features emulate those available in Bermuda and other island havens. Some wealthy families are also attracted by South Dakota rules that enhance their control over investment decisions and make it easier for them to set up their own trust companies rather than rely on a bank trustee.
    In South Dakota, a farm state that’s home to two of the 10 poorest counties in the U.S., lawmakers say they’re bolstering the trust industry to generate work for local law firms and bankers, and forge ties with prosperous families that may one day decide to build a factory or a warehouse here. The legislators are turning the Mount Rushmore State into the Bermuda of the prairie.
    As much as anyone, Pierce H. McDowell III can take credit for this transformation. He works upstairs from the hall of empty offices, on the second floor of the old Kresge five-and-dime, where he’s president of South Dakota Trust Co.

    American Siberia

    At 56, McDowell has been promoting the state he affectionately calls “North America’s Siberia” for most of his career. In 1993, he published an article in a national estate-planning journal recommending that wealthy people across the country establish dynasty trusts in South Dakota.
    Because the estate tax is imposed on large fortunes at death, McDowell wrote, wealth that’s big enough to last for generations will have to contend with multiple tax bills. A father pays the tax when he leaves his money to his children, who pay again when they pass it down. Each generation faces a toll. The current rate is 40 percent.
    McDowell’s solution was for the father to establish a never-ending trust that pays each generation of heirs only what they spend, while the rest of the money grows. In 1993, when McDowell was writing, that wasn’t possible in 47 of the 50 states because of an ancient rule limiting the duration of trusts to the lifetime of a living heir, plus 21 years. The concept has been a part of Anglo-American jurisprudence since a case decided by England’s Lord Nottingham in 1681.

    Fortune Shield

    South Dakota repealed that rule in 1983, and unlike Idaho and Wisconsin -- the other two states without the provision -- it had no income tax. So, McDowell wrote, a trust set up here could shield a big fortune from taxes for centuries, escaping tax bills as it hands out cash to great-great-great-grandchildren and beyond.
    Over dinner at a Sioux Falls restaurant this month, McDowell elaborates on the idea. He has curly gray hair and a quick laugh, and he’s wearing an open collar under a quilted winter vest. He’s known around town for making the one-mile trek to his office on a fat-tire bicycle, even in December.
    “I like to equate it to the wine in this glass,” McDowell says, covering his Cabernet with his right hand. “Here you’ve filled it to the rim and push it downstream to the next generation. You can sip from it, you can have the equivalent of outright ownership, but you don’t own it under the law. Your children -- they too will have the opportunity to sip from it.” He cups his hands as if to cradle the precious liquid.
    In most states, the glass has to pour out completely in a generation or two. We did away with that in 1983.” He chops the air with his hand.

    ‘Trust Tsunami’

    McDowell’s sales pitch got far more attractive in the past few years, when Congress gave the idea an inadvertent boost.
    “I call it the trust tsunami of 2012,” McDowell said.
    The reason most Americans don’t have to worry about the estate tax -- fewer than one in 700 pay it -- is because Congress applies the tax, and related taxes on other transfers to heirs, only when a fortune exceeds certain thresholds. For complicated reasons, the amount that most people can place in dynasty trusts is usually limited to one of these exemptions, which was set at about $1 million throughout the 1990s. It’s the size of the glass into which a wealthy family can pour the wine.
    Throughout the 2000’s, this exemption rose, and by 2011, it reached a record $5 million per individual. The temporary law was scheduled to expire after 2012, at which point it would revert to $1.4 million. Congress didn’t act to make the higher amount permanent until Jan. 1, 2013.

    Trust Rush

    With the fate of the exemption uncertain, McDowell said his clients rushed to meet the deadline during the last few months of 2012, creating billions of dollars’ worth of new trusts. He had to turn away new customers, and hire retirees to handle the crush of paperwork. There were late nights and shortened Christmas vacations. By the end of the year, he said he’d added about 500 trusts to his rolls, more than twice the number in a typical year.
    For the richest families, even a $5 million dynasty trust represents only a fraction of their fortunes, so lawyers have invented complicated strategies to squeeze bigger sums into the vehicles -- as much as $39 million, according to a presentation by McDowell’s firm published last year. Such aggressive maneuvers, once common, have become rare in recent years, McDowell said.

    Office Space

    McDowell’s firm now administers trusts worth $14 billion, according to its website, almost all of them originating in other states. An additional $75 billion is overseen by the offices downstairs, each of which is technically a separate trust company catering to just one family. The companies pay rent to McDowell for the office space, and fees for handling paperwork and administrative duties like filing tax returns; McDowell declined to comment on the price of these services. All of these are necessary steps if the families want to prove that the trusts are truly South Dakotan.
    The tenants include companies like Carlson Family Trust Co., serving the Minnesota family behind Radisson and the TGI Friday’s restaurant chain, and JHN Trust Co., linked in state incorporation papers to the family of the late New York hedge fund pioneer Jack Nash. Other companies have ties to Thomas Peterffy, the Connecticut online-brokerage billionaire; the descendants of a namesake of the Dillon Read & Co. investment bank; and the heirs of a Peruvian sugar plantation, state filings show.

    Italian Castle

    Trusts overseen in the Kresge five-and-dime building hold all kinds of assets, from stakes in private companies to a castle in Italy. While their holdings aren’t public, securities filings sometimes offer a glimpse. In July, the two top executives at Monster Beverage Corp. (MNST), the Corona, California-based energy drink maker, shifted $478 million of their stock to undisclosed “entities” controlled by a trust company based in the building.
    In 2010, the Pritzker family, whose members include U.S. Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker, revealed in a securities filing that one branch had moved $360 million of Hyatt Hotels Corp. (H)stock to trusts overseen by a native South Dakotan named Thomas J. Muenster. Muenster, whose sister married a Pritzker, maintains an office in the Kresge building.
    The SEC disclosures don’t show whether any of these moves resulted in federal or state tax savings; the amounts exceed what one individual could put in a dynasty trust. Most state and federal tax filings are private, and McDowell declined to comment on specific clients. He said most families that set up private trust companies are attracted by South Dakota’s flexible trust management rules rather thantax avoidance.

    ‘Family Tradition’

    The Monster executives declined to comment through a spokeswoman, as did the Carlson family. Jay Robert Pritzker, his sister Penny Pritzker, and his brother-in-law Muenster didn’t respond to messages seeking comment, nor did Peterffy or Joshua Nash of JHN.
    “Our family tradition has been to keep things private,” said Mark Collins, a manager of Dillon Trust Co. “We prefer to keep it that way.”
    In 2007, the Wrigley family, heirs to the candy fortune, transferred oversight of family trusts holding $1.9 billion of company stock to a private trust company in the Kresge building, according to an SEC filing.
    The family picked South Dakota because of the state’s favorable laws governing the formation of private trust companies, the Chicago family said last week in a statement attributed to William Wrigley Jr. The family said the move didn’t involve any state or federal tax savings.

    Disinterested Congress

    President Barack Obama has called for closing the dynasty trust loophole in annual budget proposals, even though the change wouldn’t boost tax receipts under his administration. The impact of dynasty trusts on federal revenue is far in the future -- though potentially enormous, saidLawrence Waggoner, a retired professor at University of Michigan Law School.
    “The federal government won’t lose out for maybe 90 years, and maybe that’s why Congress is not terribly interested in the subject,” Waggoner said. “The longer they procrastinate, you have larger and larger amounts in perpetually tax-exempt trusts.”
    One clue to how much wealthy families might save comes in McDowell’s 1993 article. Just $1 million invested in a dynasty trust, and earning 12 percent a year, would swell to $1.9 billion in 85 years, he wrote -- compared with $488 million if the same trust was located in New York, subject to both state income taxes and the federal estate tax when it expired.
    Beneficiaries must still pay personal income tax on distributions from these trusts, McDowell said. If a family runs out of heirs before a trust is exhausted, the leftovers are typically directed to a charity, he said.

    Proven Tactic

    Loosening local laws to attract out-of-state business is a proven tactic for South Dakota. In 1981, it lured Citicorp’s credit-card business -- and hundreds of jobs -- from New York by becoming the first state to repeal limits on interest rates. Other lenders followed. The credit-card industry, along with a boom in farm profits, help explain why Sioux Falls’ unemployment rate of 2.9 percent is less than half the national average. Pockets of poverty persist in American Indian reservations in the state’s midsection.
    So far, the trust industry’s contributions to state coffers have been modest. Without an income tax, South Dakota doesn’t get revenue directly from the trusts. Companies like McDowell’s pay franchise taxes on their earnings, a levy that raised about $1.2 million last year, according to the state Department of Revenue, out of a state budget of about $4 billion.

    ‘Worth It’

    Nor has the industry become a major employer. The state estimates that about 100 South Dakotans work for locally chartered trust companies. Then there are an unknown number of jobs in local trust units of national banks such as Wells Fargo & Co. (WFC), and more work for local law firms and accountants. The trusts aren’t required to hire local money managers or invest in local businesses. By comparison, a typical Wal-Mart Supercenter, of which there are two in Sioux Falls, employs about 350 people.
    “If you’ve got several hundred well-paying jobs, it’s worth it to us,” said Governor Dennis Daugaard, a Republican who used to travel to Minneapolis pitching tax-saving trusts when he worked at a bank in Sioux Falls. “It also gives us the opportunity to develop relationships with people who have the ability to encourage business here of other sorts. Now, I can’t point to a single case where that’s occurred yet, but I think it’s possible.”

    Perpetual Trusts

    When he’s away on state business in New York or Chicago, Daugaard said, he sometimes takes time to meet with wealthy clients of the South Dakota trust industry. He said he thanks them for doing business in his state.
    McDowell’s 1993 article publicizing South Dakota’s advantages helped him land a job at Citicorp, setting up trusts for the bank’s clients. As the lender started promoting South Dakota’s advantages nationally, Delaware passed a similar law allowing perpetual trusts.
    Alaska was next, after a fishing trip there inspired a New York estate planning lawyer named Jonathan Blattmachr to draft the legislation. A half dozen states, including Nevada and New Hampshire, now jostle for the business of the super-rich.
    To try to maintain its edge, South Dakota assembled a permanent task force comprising industry players such as McDowell to monitor developments in other states and propose new legislation each year. In March, Governor Daugaard signed the group’s latest submission into law, making it harder for former spouses and their offspring to tap certain trust assets.

    Eye Rolls

    The bill was sponsored by the House’s Committee on State Affairs, whose chairman, David Lust, is also House majority leader and head of the trust task force. When the part-time legislature isn’t in session, Lust works at a Rapid City law firm where one of his partners is a leading trust lawyer.
    Lust receives no “direct benefit” from the legislation, he said.
    Bernie Hunhoff, a Democrat and the House minority leader, said some in his caucus roll their eyes when the task force’s annual proposals come up for a vote. They’re aware that the trust industry drains revenue from the U.S. Treasury, which supplies almost half the state’s budget each year, he said.
    “There’s a bit of an irony there, if not hypocrisy,” said Hunhoff, editor and publisher of South Dakota Magazine. “Anything we can do to poke the federal government in the eye, or to help anybody, even wealthy strangers from 1,000 miles away, avoid taxes, that seems to be a popular thing out here.”
    Still, Hunhoff said the proposals have bipartisan -- and virtually unanimous -- support.
    “If we don’t provide for these kinds of trusts here, this will happen in some other state, so we might as well try to get the activity here,” he said. “If we can find opportunity for a few dozen young lawyers, I guess I’ll set my philosophical concerns aside.”
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